Requirement (s) Minata. Brian Abend Puntos 61. The other FAQ willuwontu provided is questionably applicable. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . 5 Go either Fighter or Slayer and grab the remaining feats in any order you want -> paired opportunists, coordinated charge, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, Critical Focus, Improved Critical. For example, take a 5th-level Human Wizard with Gifted Adept, Wayang Spellhunter, Toppling Spell, Spell Specialization: Magic Missile, Spell Focus: Evocation, Varisian Tattoo, and Knowledge is Power with 22 Int (20 plus a +2 headband). Empowered Fireball as a 3rd level spell, 15d6+30. Traits: all traits on pages 8-21 except Chosen Child and Rebel Leader. Better effect and you can apply your 0 cost metamagics as well. It still requires 5th level spell slots which are available at 10th level. Aug 16, 2012. Pick one spell when you choose this trait. Combat. I have Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter (which my DM is allowing to stack, but not bringing it lower than the spells normal level which is moot for me but regardless) and for range I can use Shocking Grasp up to Medium range without raising the spell level. If you go with heavens oracle then pick up magical lineage trait and depending on dm approval the wayang spellhunter trait, throw them both towards color spray then use metamagic like heighten spell to boost the dc, you can easily be knocking foes unconscious well into level 10 by adding your level up bonuses to charisma and getting a headband of charisma. If you're specialising in one spell there are the metamagic cost reduction traits (wayang spellhunter & magical lineage) but that isn't required. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . this isnt referring to BEING wayang. 4) Mythic powers. Combine it with dazing spell and its only weakness, unable to affect creatures larger than large, is rendered unimportant. Also Quicken. Assuming your level 3 and 5 feats were Varisian Tatoo (Evocation) and Empower Spell, at level 6 you would be shooting an empowered fireball. Well there are more traits and feats. Replacing Crane, you could go: 1 - Additional Traits: Reactionary & "Permutations of Flame" (Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball)Sign In; Cart . Any help folks? I'm not even sure this is a viable concept, I just thought it would be cool after I was reading about the unchained barbarian and them getting. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. If optimizing to the hilt pair it with Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter and Sacred Geometry. With Creative Destruction, that's 55. The ones to increase the caster level are most likely Gifted Adept(magic) and Secret of the Impossibile Kingdom(Signature Spell on d20, region). If you can take a magic item or crossblood for the Orc bloodline or a Draconic. Plus, if you take Magical Lineage & Wayang Spellhunter you can cast it as a cantrip for infinite uses of your permanent darkness. Ariakas6. My character went human so he could have both Irrisen Icemage and Extra Traits (Spellhunter and Gifted Adept. Alternatively, the Magus Arcana Close Range lets you turn ray spells into melee attacks, allowing the same to be done with Ray of Frost. Your ability to alter your spell of choice is greater than expected. If you used Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, your Maximized Shocking Grasps would take up a 2nd level spell slot. 5x the damage Levels 1-7, use Empowered Shocking Grasp in your 1st level slotsWayang Spellhunter (region trait) That's at least a +8 caster level boost! If you're lucky, if you pickup the traits with the Additional Traits feat, your GM may allow you to double their bonuses to caster level from the Spell Perfection feat. It should be. About the P. Wayang spellhunter still does that. Beebs Mar 9, 2012, 05:18 pm This combo has been popping up more and more in optimization threads in the Advice forum. Then use Still Spell + Wayang Spellhunter on your favorite offensive spell. Hellfire Ray - consider retraining Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter to this, unless you're playing a Good character in a game where the GM says casting this affects your alignment, because when you get it, an intensified version would boost it to 20d6, and then choosing it with Spell Perfection would let you apply another metamagic. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. All thoughts, advice, putdowns, or tongue-in-cheek jokes welcome. Saving throws vs Spell Slots Saves are a huge danger. Blood Havoc cannot be taken as you have taken a familiar instead. 2. P. You can take both traits but that's usuallly overkill, and it's good to have one trait to personalise your character with. I think that is all that I noticed that was wrong so far. RT Extra Traits > Magical Lineage (Enervation) Wayang Spellhunter (Enervation) So here's how it works. (Vast Spell). So I wonder has anyone ever created a list of great combo’s using the traits Wayang Spellhunter (Metamagic Master) and Magical Lineage. Similar situation to all Magus'es getting Wayang Spellhunter. 135 damage and they have to make 2 reflex saves or be dazed for 3 rounds. I'm curious whether wiser heads than mine think the metamagic reduction effect of Magical Knack or Metamagic Master (A. " and. Each one of them gives you a total -1 metamagic adjustment to a spell, but Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of 3rd level or lower. LONG. service@paizo. Or you could have him wear Glamered armor that actually isn't heavy, but looks like heavy. Plan to use Additional Traits to grab Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage to add both to 1 primary spell and use metamagic Persistent for free on it. Hellfire Ray - consider retraining Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter to this, unless you're playing a Good character in a game where the GM says casting this affects your alignment, because when you get it, an intensified version would boost it to 20d6, and then choosing it with Spell Perfection would let you apply another metamagic. Depending how OP you want to be you could take Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter in Burning Arc or Fireball. They are called Magical Lineage (from the Advanced Player's Guide) and Wayang Spellhunter (from the Dragon Empires Primer). m. As for accuracy, if he uses a free Heightened, plus Dazing and Selective spell with the Wayang and Magical Lineage traits, it still only takes up a 5th level slot. En el momento de salir de la cul-de-sac, de tu banda/estrella de nivel de amenaza que se Morningstar se generan. You know, I never noticed the level limit on Wayang Spellhunter before! Gray Warden wrote:Stack as much primary casting stat as possible (spells/day). The wayangs are a race of small supernatural humanoids who trace their ancestry to the Plane of Shadows. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . It's Wayang Spellhunter all over again and I thought the goal of PF2 was to eliminate fishing for such options. The party sorcerer laid a wall of fire across the line. +1 keen, spell storing scimitar as your weapon, boosted to +5 by your pool. I got inspired by the new Legacy of Dragons book to make a Charisma based Monk/Sorcerer. Toppling Magic Missile, Rime Snowball or Persistent Color Spray or Blindness/Deafness (or Hideous Laughter for a Bard) would be fun. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than. Also, for your wizard class you probably want evoker (admixture) so that you can swap your fire spells into other elemental damage for all the monsters that have fire resistance. On the combat side, the 3-point lower BAB compared to a martial is actually completely offset by just Heroism and the fact that Power Attack is one less of a penalty. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter are about summoner level of OPness and should just be banned. As a note a sorcerer with the arcane bloodline can gets metamagic adept at level 3, allowing them to apply a metamagic feat to a spell without increasing the casting time 1/day. And you can easily push Intensify back to 7th to open another early feat slot. Business, Economics, and Finance. BadBird. for healing reach spell combined with wayang spell hunter CLW or CMW can be nice. Choosing to be a human rather than an elf satisfies one but not on its own the other - if you have the wayang spellhunter trait you aren't Keleshite, you're from Minata instead. As for a spell cartridge build, if your GM does allow a minimum 1d4 base damage, then the feat progression. You'd obviously want to max out your charisma, but make sure to have at least 13 intelligence so you. Probably Heighten or Maximize too. 5 + 10, average 156. 20d6 compared to 8d6. And as Rhorik said, tusked not better than a feat because there is a feat that does the same. Wayangs with a Charisma score of 11 or higher also gain the following spell-like abilities: 1/day — ghost sound, pass without trace, and ventriloquism. Around level 8 this is what combat would look like if you are trying to make a fool out of the BBEG: Round 1: Drink mutagen-ale and cast Haste (via spell combat). you need quicken spell as your level 13 feat so you can use it with your level 15 feat spell perfection. Spell Perfection also lets you do this, though it takes a while to come online. Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20) to reduce metamagic costs by 2. Wayang Spiralling patterns cover this shadowy humanoid’s skin, and its black hair trails away in wisps. Flaming Sphere and Snapdragon Fireworks are good once you have all the metamagic and Dispel Magic is going to become. Then use Still Spell + Wayang Spellhunter on your favorite offensive spell. At 5th level, a metamagic rager can sacrifice additional rounds of bloodrage to apply a metamagic. Alternately, if you want to keep those, specialize in Shocking Grasp instead of Frostbite. Metamagic Master: Choose: A spell of 3rd level or below. Of course, there's always the classic Wayang Spellhunter + Magical Lineage for the Arcane Mark cantrip. Traits: Wayang spellhunter (Snowball), birthmark (for the low Will saves) Arcane Bonded: Masterwork Composite Longbow Str adjusted +1 (1) Spells Memorized: 0: Acid splash (my go to for ranged spellstrike), detect. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Light and Dark (Su): See stat block above. This follows the written developers intention for the Trait system. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . So it seems that now you have a L2 spell that dazes every round that. For bonus points theres a divine trait called Legendary Beauty if her characters looks are important to her. You probably want to take both magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for your primary blast spell so you can get some free metamagic on it, with empower and (eventually) intensified both being good choices for damage, and rime spell is a nifty crowd control option. As for the metamagic feats themselves, Persistent Spell and Quicken Spell seem mandatory. I didn't know about Wayang Spell hunter. For Example: Dazing Fireball as a L4 SpellAs the title indicates, this is explicitly a rules cheese spam. at first level you grab spell focus: evocstion and spell specialization: burning hands. I wanted to be an Arcane Trickster for pure flavor reasons, but the most important reasons were Ranged Legerdemain (Char lvl5 - lvl1AT) and Sneak Attacking with Spells (lvl 14+). I'd rather be casting an Empowered Fireball (wiz5, magical lineage+wayang spellhunter, spell specialization) at level 5, then a pumped up Burning Hands (src1/wizx). But it's a cure moderate. Can be used in. Side note: Metamagic Master is actually Wayang Spellhunter from the Dragon Empires Primer. 5*(10d6+30), average of 97. From level 6, you're possessing every enemy you meet. An intensified empowered Iceball with CL of 15 prepared as a 5th level spell deals (15d6 + 45) * 1. Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Trait stacking :Spell Specialisation or Varisian Tattoo can be gotten as early as level 1 and significantly the power of one spell or buff all spells from a single school (for a low level spellcaster I'd go with specialising in one spell). I believe it's been said somewhere that Magical Lineage and Wayang doesn't stack. You still get the arcane bond from the bloodline. Wayang Spellhunter (Flaming Sphere) Revelations: Freezing Spells Misfortune Fortune Snow Sight Ice Armor Feats: Spell Focus (Cold) Greater Spell Focus (Cold) Rime Spell Elemental Spell (Cold) Spontaneous Metafocus, Flaming Sphere Persistent Spell Spontaneous Metafocus, Wall of Fire. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. So unless your character is from Minata in Tian Xia, your GM might have an issue with it. Toss in Crossblooded (Draconic and Orc) and now its 20d6 +40 as a 4th level spell. Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would be the best spell to use with Spell Perfection, as an Eldritch Scion? < > Showing 1-3 of 3 comments . Select a spell of 3rd level or below. ; Perception +2 Defense AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2) Quite frankly, seeing as Wayang Spellhunter is a functional reprint of Magical Lineage, you shouldn't even be allowed to take both, even if you want to apply them to different spells - they just didn't reprint it because all the traits in the book Wayang Spellhunter is in are regional traits, whereas Magical Lineage is a magic trait. The former can apply to any single spell, and reduces the modified level by 1 after you've applied metamagic to it. Wayang CR 1/2 Source Bestiary 4 pg. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. DC 45 with Normal Stuff (credit to Ben S. No need for sneak attack dips either, and you can use a trait like Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter to add Intensify metamagic and raise the max to 10d4. A wizard 5/Sorcerer 1 with 23 Int, Admixture school specialization, Crossblooded sorc archetype with Orc+Solar or Dragonic bloodlines, Greater Spell Focus (evocation), Empower metamagic feat, and Wayang Spellhunter+Magical Lineage traits: (5d6+12)x1. —Pathfinder Design Team, 10/18/13. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Magical Lineage and/or Wayang Spellhunter shouldn't be overlooked, as these only enable more chicanery. P. Rocky Williams 530 :Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20) to reduce metamagic costs by 2. When you cast an authoritative spell, choose one of the following activities to prohibit: move closer to you, move away from you, make a melee weapon attack, make a ranged weapon attack, cast an offensive spell, or cast a non-offensive spell. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . 5, Ref DC 21. e. They have sharp features and skin tones ranging from. Starting with Grease adding the Alchemical Power Component Acid as a material component to add 1 point of damage. Both allow you to apply a metamagic feat to a. 2 UC Rogue-> Combat Talent Butterfly Sting, Evasion. Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter on Frostbite or Shocking Grasp. With a command word, you can use a wayfinder to shine (as the light spell). That said obviously some DMs will hold you to it, some won't. Aside from Magical lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, is there anything else that can be used to reduce a spell's effective level? I know there is spell perfection, but that is at lvl 15, and thats a LONG way from now (lvl 2). When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. The shaman doesn't have any special requirements in traits. This allows you to spontaneously cast 1 spell (and you pick Magic Missile) and apply metamagics to it without increasing the cast time by. 1 level dip for that + Wizard gets 4 more damage. Magical Lineage and/or Wayang Spellhunter are great traits if you are going the Metamagic shocking grasp route. Wayang spell hunter + Magical Lineage for a Wizard. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. They are extremely gaunt, with pixielike stature and skin the color of. Sign In; Cart . Fireball v. I would think that since Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage provide the exact same benefit, they don't stack. That's a reason why I don't take it. It's irrelevant for spontaneous casters, but could be relevant for pepared casters thay might have a spell prepared with metamagic but not without. Is this possible of is there something I'm missing. The the ones that reduce the metamagic costs are Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20pfsrd) and Magical Lineage. Reply AmeteurOpinions IRON CASTER • Additional comment actions. So a true regional trait. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. In regards to the traits, you can indeed only have one trait per category by default (though it's worth noting that while magical lineage is indeed a magic trait, metamagic master (which is correctly named wayang spellhunter) is a regional trait and is thus fine to take at the same time and does indeed stack if taken on the same spell), though there are a set of. If you take the Wayang Spellhunter (aka Metamagic Master) trait, it will let you use the Empower Spell metamagic at a cost of only one level increase in Spell slot. Feb 12, 2016, 01:02 pm. You need Intensify Spell unless you want to be capped at 5d6, that's mandatory on SG Magus. Ahora yo creo que Andre generado durante esta. A human could take the Draconic Heritage alternate racial trait instead of skilled to get 10ft of darkvision (enough since this spell only has a 10ft radius), spend both feats to pick up Umbral spell and it's prerequisite Tenebrous spell at level 1, and grab wayang spellhunter and magical lineage to reduce the level increase to 0. Sign In; Cart . Also keep in mind Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage (?). Unlike its first game (2014’s Entwined, which was, as Robilliard puts it, a “student project” in many ways), Concrete Genie was a much more ambitious undertaking from the get-go. Scrying is either useless or mandatory depending on the campaign in my experience. In a similar vein the MAGICAL LINEAGE or WAYANG SPELLHUNTER background traits are incredibly strong for a Magus, who can use one of these traits to get a level 1 Intensified Shocking Grasp or a level 1 Rime Frostbite (or occasionally a level 1 Toppling Magic Missile). Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. It's not like Magical Lineage is suddenly weak with that FAQ. The party sorcerer laid a wall of fire across the line. Assuming you've got the Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter traits, an Empowered Intensified Shocking Grasp is only 3rd level; at that cost you hardly need to Empower for free. Then you attack one of those targets; entangled. Round 2: Cast Touch of Idiocy and move up to enemy. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. Need Help?Being a magus you'll want Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter. paizo. Magical Knack keeps your spell caster level on par with your HD, and Wayang Spellhunter to keep your. This follows the written developers intention for the Trait system. WarrenCraftlocke. And you can stack them to drop it even further. Cryptoalthough in my experience having wayang spellhunter for a 0 level spell is nice, depending on what metamagic feats you have. The rest are good, true but no serious problem. Traits/Drawback: Fate's Favored, Magical Knack, Wayang Spellhunter: Ill Omen / Power-Hungry. As for traits, I’m okay with sacrificing Wayang Spell Hunter for sure (flavour doesn’t fit her anyway) and maaaaybe Seeker. Select a spell of. Shadowy Dash. Magical Lineage. The Rod thing is direct from. Slow Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. The caster level for these. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Reason behind this: Pearls of power recharge a slot you have already used of that level, doesn't really care about what that slot really was. Size: Wayangs are Small creatures and gain a +1 size bonus to AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on combat maneuver checks and to CMD, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. Or they could just take Wayang Spellhunter trait, it's regional trait. Bear in mind that the Magus probably wants to use his swift actions on something else than reducing spell failure chance. This includes the Magus. For traits, grab magical lineage and wayang spellhunter, both for fireball. Stack as much primary casting stat as possible (spells/day). Wayang Spellhunter = -1 If they stack it's 3+5-1-1=3, so it ends up up as a level 3 spell. You are going to want Toppling Spell, Disruptive Spell, Dazing Spell, Heighten Spell and Quicken Spell by level 6. Maxamized would be 8 damage per d6, while Empowered would average 5. Call Lightning has an annoying 1 round cast time. Add in Throwing Magus Arcana, and eventually Reach Spellstrike for your vanilla magus and your doing the same thing without 3 classes. Or you can use them on 2 different spells. At level 10 it will be an automatic 165 points. 120 damage . to 5:00 p. Wayang Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +2) 1/day — ghost sound (DC 11), pass without trace, ventriloquism (DC 12) Arcane School Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +4) 6/day — blinding ray. com. Archives. 5x1. I suggest carrying a few potions of Remove Fear and learning Placebo Effect as Saethori suggested. 1st spell specialisation (burning hands) 3rd varisian tattoo evocation. Not as good at single target damage, but. The flexibility is nice, but there are usually other ways to get those spells. Crypto+4DC Persistent Hideous Laughter comes to mind as a pretty thematic and dangerous option, doable by level 7 if you use Wayang Spellhunter to drop it to a level 3 spell. Then I could make my Ring of Wizardry be set at level 3, and heap love upon my allies and summons easier. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. I took furious as it adds damage Level 7 bonus feat - Quicken Spell - This is for later onIdeal Traits: Wayang Spellhunter- (Perfection spell) Lore Seeker (RotRL trait): Pick 3 spells and increase CL and DC for those 3 spells by +1. ”. What I want to do is use Benthic spell (and Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter) to maximize my ability to force Fortitiude saves or be prone with EVERY elemental spell I cast, while combining it with other unpleasant effects. Or you can hopefully procure a quicken Rod, or make one yourself. my gnome illusionist uses it to have a threatening ghost sound to flank for people, if he has nothing better to do. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. ) Religion: Affinity For The Elements: Fire (Spells cast with the Fire descriptor are cast at +1 DC)Wayang spellhunter or magiced lineage traits for -1 effective spell level on metamagic. Choose: A spell of 3rd level or below. Oddly, the Remove Fear spell isn't a good option for a Psychic, since it's got an Emotion component. Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. 5 in an aoe at up to medium range that doesn't require being able to charge. Traits: Spellcasing Prodigy(magic trait) (Magic missile, +1 caster level to it), Wayang Spellhunter (regional trait) (magic missile now takes up a spell-slot 1 level lower when applying metamagics to it). If something has fire resistance, switch elements. After that point you have some feat options, with rapid shot, intensify spell/rime spell (if you took wayang spellhunter), and combat stamina (if your GM allows it) all being worth considering. Wayang Spellhunter does require you to have grown up in a specific region though, which probably means it's out of your reach. The regional trait originally appeared in the Dragon Empires Primer as Wayang Spellhunter (14), and, as the name and provenance suggests, a GM may limit the trait's availability to those from a region like Golarion's Minata which is populated largely (but not exclusively) by wayangs. *Revelation: Eye of the Moon* 5O. a reach metamagic acid splash that is still level 0 (and therefore can be cast every round) can be nice. " and Magical Lineage says:"Benefit: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. About the P. Spellhunter is a regional trait, and Lineage is a magic trait. Wayangs are short, lean humanoids, similar in stature to gnomes. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. (Especially if I summon as a standard, inspire as a move, and Haste as a swift)Magical Knack, Wayang Spellhunter (Mage Hand) Feats: Reach Spell, Equipment Trick (Thieves' Tools), Skill Focus (Sleight of Hand), +3 undecided. What's particularly fun would be applying both of them to Fireball, using Admixture to change energy types on the fly, and attaching Dazing Spell. Spell perfection for one free metamagic feat. basically you can cast a. Archives of Nethys are now the official Paizo srd, and is permitted to use Golarion-specific names. Languages: Wayangs Metamagic Master. Also, I believe one of the developers even stated on these boards that you could not reduce a lvl 1 or higher spell to a 0-level cantrip. There are plenty of other ways to use spells in Spell Combat than that. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. For Enervation, you probably want Extra traits and take either magical lineage or wayang spellhunter or whatsitcalled that reduces the metamagic cost by one on a chosen spell. Male wayang illusionist 1. Illusionist Spells Prepared (CL 1st; concentration +4) 1st — hypnotism (DC 14), silent image (DC 14), vanish. There's thousands of feats in PF1 and at least a hundred feats that a shaman might take. 1st level - tattooed sorcerer for some cool perks and rime spell. Wayang CR 1/2. . 3 UC Rogue-> Dex to Damage Kukri, Outflank. How did so many timid people all become adventurers? Entire parties of Scoobys and Shaggys, no Freds or Daphnes. Circle of Death is a 6th level wizard spell, so its base DC is 16 (10 + spell level). Additional traits to get magical lineage is great, try to get wayang spellhunter too. Wayang Spellhunter (lower metamagic cost 1 level) Magic Items: Flawed Orange Prism (+ 1 caster level) Otherworldly Kimono (+4 caster level) Prayer Beads - Karma (+4 caster level, needs UMD skill check to use) Why Gifted Adept over Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage? They are good too. Fireball is good because it has a solid AOE and It's at a level that's decently accessible and also ripe for metamagic application (including being low enough for wayang spellhunter to apply). I would think that since Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage provide the exact same benefit, they don't stack. Still thinking Quick Study and Consume Magic Items are worth getting. Otherwise you get silly munchkinism, like claiming that the FAQ restrictions on Magical Lineage don't apply to Wayang Spellhunter, or other such shenanigans regarding one-handed weapons like the Bastard Sword. Prerequisite: Wayang. Based on the wording of the Dwarf Sorcerer FCB's, I believe a Dwarf can change the damage type of Acid Splash with Elemental Spell without removing the Acid descriptor and therefore keep the FCB damage bonus. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . We're a crossblooded orc/draconic (black, i. IMHO, Wayang Spellhunter simply should not be available, since it states: Wayang Spellhunter wrote: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. Doing the rest as a Two-Weapon Warrior Fighter or. In hushed tones, superstitious people tell their children stories of wayangs— living shadows who come out at night to eat misbehaving children. Transmuter- +1 CL on all transmutations and extends one. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . The Djezet and wayang combination are both rated 6/5, not necessarily because they are the best, but they are a little hand wavy on how much they count BUT the equipment trick feat clearly states that it is treated as being 1 spell level higher for all purposes, which would include pre-reqs. I realised that the feats Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage both lower the level increase of metamagic by 1, and my DM allows them to stack on the. If it didn't, or doesn't, then the FAQ team just increased their own workload. With your Fireballs of course. Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage is only a feat (Extra Traits) away, so by level 8 on a Sorcerer with Widen and Magic Trick(both), it would be 4 mini-fireballs at 5d6 each as a 4th level spell. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. The two simplest magus builds focus on the shocking grasp spell or the frostbite spell. The fact that they made one a magic trait and one a regional trait would seem to me that they can both be used together, so long as the above FAQ ruling is not violated. You can take both! And even apply them to the same spell! Focused Mind: +2 concentration. Widened Burst of Radiance comparison:Evoker wizard of the Admixture school, with a one level dip in crossblooded archetype orc and dragon bloodline Sorcerer. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell? In addition, he could Heighten for free and using Wayang and Spellhunter, add Rhime and Intensfy Spell for free as well, while casting out of a 3rd level slot. The Fate's Favored and Magical Knack traits already use up both typical trait slots, but with a Drawback or Additional Traits you could also pick up Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball (maybe re-flavored for your backstory). James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies Aug 27, 2016, 11:58 am: Vatras wrote: magical lineage and metamagic master you end up with using a slot 2 levels less. Technically, they are not the same. You could pick up Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter with the Additional Traits feat and retrain the feat whenever you want another spell to benefit from those two traits. Heck if you wanna really go the Min max route you can take Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage both for that spell to reduce the cost of metamagic on it by 2. pathunwinder • 4 yr. There are a lot of cases where traits probably shouldn't stack (Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage) but that's a GM putting in a limit for the good of the game rather than a rule in the book. Wayang Spellhunter - Color Spray Magical Lineage - Color Spray which seem to say the same thing, but their wording causes it to effect different parts of the spell, and it allows you to actually reduce the metamagic cost by 2 levels on a single spell. Particularly with magical lineage and Wayang spellhunter traits. Mad Magic does not work with your raging blood, although that rage is similar to bloodrage it is not bloodrage, so it will not function at all. Wayang Spellhunter: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. Religion. I didn't know about Wayang Spell hunter. 1st level feats are Toppling Spell and Spontaneous Metafocus (Magic Missile). Need Help? Mon–Fri, 10:00 a. And you can always Heighten Spell to keep your specialization relevant. At level 10 it will be an automatic 165 points. Particularly with magical lineage and Wayang spellhunter traits. 1 level of rogue, 10 of arcane trickster and accomplished sneak attacker gets us 7d6 sneak attack. Particularly with magical lineage and Wayang spellhunter traits. Various stuff from this page. Also keep in mind Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage (?). For your traits you can take magical lineage and wayang spell hunter. With Crossblooded, even my strong save is a weak save. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. All. Wayang. Especially good if you took either Magical Lineage or Wayang Spell hunter to Fireball. El secreto para esto es el primer matar a os en Espina (por ejemplo, tres), luego empezar a cerca de la actividad de trata de personas. At 3rd you'll have 3. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Benefit: Whenever you are in an area of dim light or darkness, you can move at full speed using Stealth without taking the normal –5 penalty for doing so. at later levels, grab empower spell, varisian tattoo (evocation) intensify spell and flumefire rage. For traits I would suggest magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for fireball, and then possibly reactionary due to how important going first can be at higher power levels. Reply Javaed. That being said, they are still very good traits regardless, because metamagic is very strong, and. I'd say drop either Slumber or Evil Eye. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. P. This makes life worrisome for a sorcerer in general, but even moreso for a trapper. Metamagic Master Your ability to alter your spell of choice is greater than expected. Paizo Blog; Forums; PaizoCon; Community Use; GuidelinesNo because Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter actually do two different things. For traits I would suggest magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for fireball, and then possibly reactionary due to how important going first can be at higher power levels. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. Regional: Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball (Metamagic applied to Fireball adjusts its final spell level by -1. Something less cheesy, but still useful, would be to pick up an initiative boosting trait instead of Wayang Spellhunter, as you want to go first to blast the still grouped and. Sign In; Cart . Hexes: If you want to be able to heal the healing hex ist a must, even if a lot of people think it's weak. The fluff of actually being born there is well fluff. You're not going to be doing much damage. For extra fun with Metamagic traits, take Wayang Spellhunter[Flame Strike] For Race, Gnome is a decent choice for fire-based casters, getting a +1CL to fire spells with the Pyromaniac option. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Cast a Dazing Fireball in a 5th level slot. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. No, Wayang Spellhunter is bound by the same FAQ. Wayang Spellhunter Source Dragon Empires Primer pg. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits, both for fireball. In my own games I houserule a lot too. *Bloodrage: Undead* / *Fast Movement* / Noble Scion: of War 2O. 274 XP 200 Male wayang illusionist 1 CN Small humanoid (wayang) Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. In addition, what sort of feats would help keep a Puppetmaster's plans from unraveling? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments. oral tradition of Kalsgard. I believe it's been said somewhere that Magical Lineage and Wayang doesn't stack.